Lili and Lamp,
I think you are both conflating issues a bit. There was someone or something supporting us at least at first. It did become apparent that the money was gone at some point. I did say that I can tell you there were no millions spent. I was five. Maybe there wasn't even hundreds of thousands spent. Keep in mind if PH was the mastermind, he lived there also, with his family. One would think the con man would spend a bit on himself. When the Holders left we knew it was over. My parents were left broke and destitute which is certainly why we avoided going back to the church. There are lot of people that old give you a more grown up perspective on the mine. I simply wanted to share my memories of actualy living there and seeing the goings on. Equipment, fuel, food, housing, all those things did come from somewhere.
My father held a PhD in forestry and soil science and was arguably the only one whom knew or had any inkling of what to do in terms of extracting gold. He spoke many times later of his belief that the PROCESS could have succeeded. Not that it would have ever happened with the hippies and burnouts that lived there at the mine. When we left the mine, and I think we were last, we moved into a shady motor court motel on miracle mile in Tucson. We had no afiliation with The Walk until 1977 in DC.
I never meant to imply that the mine was NOT a scam. I simply wanted to share my memories, which are good. I have no resentment towards anyone for the child labor at the mine or a Shiloh, which was a far greater abuse than the mine. I have great resentment and have often considered my legal options with respect to many things that happened (at Shiloh)but never did anything at the mine disturb me. I can share many, many things that were done that really f***** up the kids, including me. In my mind lIving in the middle of the desert was never one of them.
I do not recall any connection or talk of JRS and actualy had you asked me at that time I think RD Cronquist was the only "leader" I could have named for you. I never felt cut off or banished in any way. We had visitors on Harleys and a guy whom flew an airplane in also. We had no phone and the post office was 17 miles or so away down a rough dirt road.
Again, I can tell you what happened at the mine, I cannot tell you what was going on elsewhere. I wanted to share my memories for that very reason. That to connect the dots and align the entire scam we would need to know all angles and the deceit or lies that were told to the different factions at the time. Don't feel one bit bad for me. I had two older sisters and I know they thought they had died and gone to hell.
Socially a waste land for young girls.
Happy to share more later.
I think you are both conflating issues a bit. There was someone or something supporting us at least at first. It did become apparent that the money was gone at some point. I did say that I can tell you there were no millions spent. I was five. Maybe there wasn't even hundreds of thousands spent. Keep in mind if PH was the mastermind, he lived there also, with his family. One would think the con man would spend a bit on himself. When the Holders left we knew it was over. My parents were left broke and destitute which is certainly why we avoided going back to the church. There are lot of people that old give you a more grown up perspective on the mine. I simply wanted to share my memories of actualy living there and seeing the goings on. Equipment, fuel, food, housing, all those things did come from somewhere.
My father held a PhD in forestry and soil science and was arguably the only one whom knew or had any inkling of what to do in terms of extracting gold. He spoke many times later of his belief that the PROCESS could have succeeded. Not that it would have ever happened with the hippies and burnouts that lived there at the mine. When we left the mine, and I think we were last, we moved into a shady motor court motel on miracle mile in Tucson. We had no afiliation with The Walk until 1977 in DC.
I never meant to imply that the mine was NOT a scam. I simply wanted to share my memories, which are good. I have no resentment towards anyone for the child labor at the mine or a Shiloh, which was a far greater abuse than the mine. I have great resentment and have often considered my legal options with respect to many things that happened (at Shiloh)but never did anything at the mine disturb me. I can share many, many things that were done that really f***** up the kids, including me. In my mind lIving in the middle of the desert was never one of them.
I do not recall any connection or talk of JRS and actualy had you asked me at that time I think RD Cronquist was the only "leader" I could have named for you. I never felt cut off or banished in any way. We had visitors on Harleys and a guy whom flew an airplane in also. We had no phone and the post office was 17 miles or so away down a rough dirt road.
Again, I can tell you what happened at the mine, I cannot tell you what was going on elsewhere. I wanted to share my memories for that very reason. That to connect the dots and align the entire scam we would need to know all angles and the deceit or lies that were told to the different factions at the time. Don't feel one bit bad for me. I had two older sisters and I know they thought they had died and gone to hell.
Socially a waste land for young girls.
Happy to share more later.