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Re: Lifewave and Ishvara (John Yarr)

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Hi moderator

I was not intending to make any claims. I was simply describing my own experiences, which at the time I erroneously attributed to the power of the teacher.

Such experiences do occur in meditation, and are not simply the result of being in a state of trance.

Any meaningful discussion on cults and spiritual groups has to allow for the fact that many people in such groups do experience some kind of spiritual awakening. This is why people stay in such groups and put up with all sorts of nonsense. The challenge is to separate the experiences of the individual from the context within which such experiences happen.

Such experiences may be meaningless to those who were not involved in Lifewave, but those who were involved and are reading this might find it helpful.

If you have a problem with open discussion on genuine experiences then please say so and I will withdraw from further discussion. But if the purpose of this forum is to simply say how bad all these groups are and how dangerous it is to practice meditation then it is missing the point.

Peace.

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