iamthat
Blaming the victim is not what this message board is about.
See [culteducation.com]
All anyone need do here is go to the top control bar of any page on this board and click on "Mind Control." There is an archive of information within this database.
In my experience most victims that blame themselves for being manipulated have not read very extensively about how coercive persuasion, thought reform and influence techniques work.
Sadly, its a business for certain gurus, swamis and various teachers and mentors in various groups to game people. They use tricks, traps and deception to exploit participants, students, etc.
People come to this board to talk about such experiences, not blaming and shaming victims of such behavior.
You may not mean to shame and blame victims, but your post seems to tilt in that direction. Many people that are in or have been in manipulative groups and relationships don't see it and/or admit it.
Meditation is not the issue. A leader using meditation to manipulate people is the point. Meditation is typically benign, just like reading the bible. But both the bible and meditation can be used as a cover by a unscrupulous teacher.
Blaming the victim is not what this message board is about.
See [culteducation.com]
All anyone need do here is go to the top control bar of any page on this board and click on "Mind Control." There is an archive of information within this database.
In my experience most victims that blame themselves for being manipulated have not read very extensively about how coercive persuasion, thought reform and influence techniques work.
Sadly, its a business for certain gurus, swamis and various teachers and mentors in various groups to game people. They use tricks, traps and deception to exploit participants, students, etc.
People come to this board to talk about such experiences, not blaming and shaming victims of such behavior.
You may not mean to shame and blame victims, but your post seems to tilt in that direction. Many people that are in or have been in manipulative groups and relationships don't see it and/or admit it.
Meditation is not the issue. A leader using meditation to manipulate people is the point. Meditation is typically benign, just like reading the bible. But both the bible and meditation can be used as a cover by a unscrupulous teacher.