Here is something to consider.
Alanon is a program (free of charge, no leader) for people who
are living with alcoholics/addicts and who are looking for ways to
stay grounded.
If someone persistently showed up at an Alanon meeting to speak
only of their joy and delight in various wine varieties, that person
would be firmly told to leave and look for wine appreciation societies -
of which there are many. Alanon meetings were not designed for that purpose.
Living with an alcoholic addict leads to isolation. The fellowship of
the Alanon meeting is essential for healing, and would be ruined if
a wine lovers kept talking.
An alcoholic adult son or daughter one has had to lock out of one's house and wallet is not experienced by most as a 'learning experience'; this is experienced
as raw pain.
A parent in this predicament would not want to hear a visitor at their Alanon meeting extol the pleasures of drinking champagne at a wedding.
Likewise, the CEI message board was deliberately set up as a safe and intentional
space for persons who do not regard their time with a guru as 'a learning experience', who feel harmed - and for persons who feel concerned for the welfare
for someone else who is in a guru centered group.
Very few venues exist for persons for those who want to share and
discuss harm they have experienced from gurus and within guru led groups.
Isolation and loneliness and shame are suffered by those who feel harmed by
gurus, so a safe venue to discuss the downsides of discipleship under a
particular guru is essential for healing.
Meanwhile, there is no shortage of venues for people who want to share their gratitude for guru led 'learning experiences' , just as there are no shortage of wine lovers' societies.
CEI was not set up those who have benefitted from guru and guru group 'learning experiences' but for those of us who have not benefitted
and in fact consider themselves harmed.
Even the most beneficial drug has side effects. Those side effects are
as real as the benefits, which is why even aspirin comes with a package
insert listing its side effects.
People who set up a forum to discuss harmful drug side effects would
be rightly offended for those who intrude into their discussion.
Alanon is a program (free of charge, no leader) for people who
are living with alcoholics/addicts and who are looking for ways to
stay grounded.
If someone persistently showed up at an Alanon meeting to speak
only of their joy and delight in various wine varieties, that person
would be firmly told to leave and look for wine appreciation societies -
of which there are many. Alanon meetings were not designed for that purpose.
Living with an alcoholic addict leads to isolation. The fellowship of
the Alanon meeting is essential for healing, and would be ruined if
a wine lovers kept talking.
An alcoholic adult son or daughter one has had to lock out of one's house and wallet is not experienced by most as a 'learning experience'; this is experienced
as raw pain.
A parent in this predicament would not want to hear a visitor at their Alanon meeting extol the pleasures of drinking champagne at a wedding.
Likewise, the CEI message board was deliberately set up as a safe and intentional
space for persons who do not regard their time with a guru as 'a learning experience', who feel harmed - and for persons who feel concerned for the welfare
for someone else who is in a guru centered group.
Very few venues exist for persons for those who want to share and
discuss harm they have experienced from gurus and within guru led groups.
Isolation and loneliness and shame are suffered by those who feel harmed by
gurus, so a safe venue to discuss the downsides of discipleship under a
particular guru is essential for healing.
Meanwhile, there is no shortage of venues for people who want to share their gratitude for guru led 'learning experiences' , just as there are no shortage of wine lovers' societies.
CEI was not set up those who have benefitted from guru and guru group 'learning experiences' but for those of us who have not benefitted
and in fact consider themselves harmed.
Even the most beneficial drug has side effects. Those side effects are
as real as the benefits, which is why even aspirin comes with a package
insert listing its side effects.
People who set up a forum to discuss harmful drug side effects would
be rightly offended for those who intrude into their discussion.