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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

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Sometimes the people whose lives were trashed and betrayed by TLWF cult can't get past the pain. Often times deep personal pain causes us to turn from God. It seems a natural follow up to having your life trashed that members and posters would talk about that. After all the whole point of being in the LW in the first place was for walk with God. I don't think talking about it is preaching. It's trying to come to terms with the pain. Often times the greatest pain comes from people who are close to us. The more we love them, the greater their ability to inflict pain.

In Corinthians Ch 7 Paul is extremely depressed because he was being trashed by the Corinthian church. He experienced a deep personal pain because he was being betrayed by the Corinthians whom he loved. He was being betrayed by the Corinthians because they had fallen under the influence of false teachers and false apostles who taught a false gospel, and the Corinthians were swept away by their visions and transcendental experiences. Paul said he once had a vision too (transported to the heavens) and he felt compelled to boast that he was superior and had visions and revelations too to build his defense to Corinth . But Paul didn't build his defense on his vision because it wasn't verifiable or repeatable. For him to establish his Apostleship on something that no one could know really happened would be to open the door for every deceiver to do the same. Paul wanted the Corinthians to trust him based upon knowing his character, who he was and what he taught and not because he had visions. Why then did God give Paul the vision. Perhaps God gave Paul that vision and a glimpse of glory to come to sustain him because Paul suffered much torment.

TLWF cult boasts visions and revelations among the leadership. Yet, the leaders will betray their followers and trash them if their obedience to their revelations falls short. We don't learn much from Paul about how he handled his betrayal and suffering. He talks of a thorn in his side. Maybe the suffering never left. Maybe he realized God would not turn everything that was evil into good in his earthly life but that would come in eternity.

I have nothing to boast about. I hope you don't think I am preaching but I am trying to reconcile pain too after having turned from God because of the LW betrayal. I used to think if God was going to turn the destructiveness and what was meant for evil into good it would happen in my earthly lifetime. I am now seeing maybe that's not how it works and that may happen later in an afterlife. If you don't believe in a afterlife this post wasn't meant to offend or preach. But I found comfort in what Paul went through and his betrayals and that his vision of the glory to follow is what sustained him, but it wasn't something that he boasted about so that the churches would trust him.

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