Chaos1952 Wrote:
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> I hesitate to call the whole thing a cult, I mean
> there was a lot of great people in the WALK, and
> for the most part, JRS had an incredible knowledge
> of the bible. Comparing the WALK to the
> churchianity as a whole, it was and probably still
> isn't all that bad. You see, people tend to make
> a gold calf out of their leaders, for one thing,
> if they can put the leader on a pedestal, if they
> can influence him or her, make them need that
> worship, they can in essence control them. That
> is what happened with JRS, he had a bunch of yes
> men (and women) around him, and they did influence
> him. Marilyn came along and said everything John
> wanted to hear, she wiggled and giggled and
> idolized him and made him feel good, made him feel
> young, and next thing you know, Martha is out,
> Marilyn is in, JRS is dead and she has all the
> property and money and ministry and, well, you
> know the story, Hargrave figured he would marry
> the grieving widow and then he would be the man.
> This is no different than what happens in the rest
> of Christendom, nothing special there.
>
> I know this, the people that I met at Shiloh from
> other parts of the country would have been Moonies
> or Heavens Gate stiffs or Jim Jones followers,
> whoever came first would be whoever they followed.
> I don't know that JRS was such a cult leader, but
> the people in it were certainly lining up to
> worship whatever man they found.
Great symposis Caos 1952.
I have to say that when I first met JRS I was a child. I learned so much about the Bible freom him. He inpsired me to read the Bible adn memorize as i was encourage by our children curch lteachers.
Jrs kept my atteniton ( I found some you tube of G in a boring monotone as he name drops almost reapeating verbatum phrases I remember jrs saying. Can the holy spirit any one not plageraize? ok , so he told qute a few scriptures. Critcally speaking)
I still don't know why JRS was idolized. I admired him as a teacher. tho' I was afraid of him like I was of most men. The way he looked though every one. I think that was a learned trick.
I do know that some "ignorant" people, (gotta love'em ) did blurt out that they saw him as christ. they were never publically redirected. Like a marketing techinque many people began to accept that comment as a fact because they heard it repeated. ( buy pop corn... buy pop corn...by pop corn.)
I wonder if a key was WHO was doing the marketing on the erronious concept that took over. ( WAs god herself?)
BTW I had missed the fellowship. I befreinded a well known women. Step by step I allowed her to take me over and submit to her. She love bombed me. It was in my ingrained training. She gave words of prophesy and messages from the angels. She was spot on. What I did not know was that she has stollen the keys to my apartment.... and worse.
Step by step I fell into her delussion. At a point after doing her biding I displeased her and she nearly killed me. Turns out many professional folks in town had been " bullied " by her. After the fact many believe she murderd 2 husbands and more former clients of hers.
Shortly before I escaped from her after mysterious deaths in my apartment complex of her former clients she revealed that god was a woman a fat woman. she was god according to her but she got me to blurt it out after hints. ( She is Scizophrenic with well organized delusions.)
Crud! I fell for the very same thing that hppened in the walk for what ever reson. in the walk, years before, sumission absolute obedience is what I was trained to do.
Point is I think that I a not stupid. Yet, I had established a pattern of vulnerable behavior a naracasistic psychopath picked up on.
Is it possbile that other survivors of the walk could also become prey to other good looking, well spoken psycho paths as well after having been trained to be submission and hungry for a closeness to god?
Does my off beat experince ring a bell to you as much as it does to me how vulnerable our dear brother and sister survivors may be vulnerable to?
I know my fatehr fell into every TV preacher out there. My dad was kicked out of the walk. he knew too much.
Sorry my typos are not spirit lead. It is disability thing that I am famous for.
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> I hesitate to call the whole thing a cult, I mean
> there was a lot of great people in the WALK, and
> for the most part, JRS had an incredible knowledge
> of the bible. Comparing the WALK to the
> churchianity as a whole, it was and probably still
> isn't all that bad. You see, people tend to make
> a gold calf out of their leaders, for one thing,
> if they can put the leader on a pedestal, if they
> can influence him or her, make them need that
> worship, they can in essence control them. That
> is what happened with JRS, he had a bunch of yes
> men (and women) around him, and they did influence
> him. Marilyn came along and said everything John
> wanted to hear, she wiggled and giggled and
> idolized him and made him feel good, made him feel
> young, and next thing you know, Martha is out,
> Marilyn is in, JRS is dead and she has all the
> property and money and ministry and, well, you
> know the story, Hargrave figured he would marry
> the grieving widow and then he would be the man.
> This is no different than what happens in the rest
> of Christendom, nothing special there.
>
> I know this, the people that I met at Shiloh from
> other parts of the country would have been Moonies
> or Heavens Gate stiffs or Jim Jones followers,
> whoever came first would be whoever they followed.
> I don't know that JRS was such a cult leader, but
> the people in it were certainly lining up to
> worship whatever man they found.
Great symposis Caos 1952.
I have to say that when I first met JRS I was a child. I learned so much about the Bible freom him. He inpsired me to read the Bible adn memorize as i was encourage by our children curch lteachers.
Jrs kept my atteniton ( I found some you tube of G in a boring monotone as he name drops almost reapeating verbatum phrases I remember jrs saying. Can the holy spirit any one not plageraize? ok , so he told qute a few scriptures. Critcally speaking)
I still don't know why JRS was idolized. I admired him as a teacher. tho' I was afraid of him like I was of most men. The way he looked though every one. I think that was a learned trick.
I do know that some "ignorant" people, (gotta love'em ) did blurt out that they saw him as christ. they were never publically redirected. Like a marketing techinque many people began to accept that comment as a fact because they heard it repeated. ( buy pop corn... buy pop corn...by pop corn.)
I wonder if a key was WHO was doing the marketing on the erronious concept that took over. ( WAs god herself?)
BTW I had missed the fellowship. I befreinded a well known women. Step by step I allowed her to take me over and submit to her. She love bombed me. It was in my ingrained training. She gave words of prophesy and messages from the angels. She was spot on. What I did not know was that she has stollen the keys to my apartment.... and worse.
Step by step I fell into her delussion. At a point after doing her biding I displeased her and she nearly killed me. Turns out many professional folks in town had been " bullied " by her. After the fact many believe she murderd 2 husbands and more former clients of hers.
Shortly before I escaped from her after mysterious deaths in my apartment complex of her former clients she revealed that god was a woman a fat woman. she was god according to her but she got me to blurt it out after hints. ( She is Scizophrenic with well organized delusions.)
Crud! I fell for the very same thing that hppened in the walk for what ever reson. in the walk, years before, sumission absolute obedience is what I was trained to do.
Point is I think that I a not stupid. Yet, I had established a pattern of vulnerable behavior a naracasistic psychopath picked up on.
Is it possbile that other survivors of the walk could also become prey to other good looking, well spoken psycho paths as well after having been trained to be submission and hungry for a closeness to god?
Does my off beat experince ring a bell to you as much as it does to me how vulnerable our dear brother and sister survivors may be vulnerable to?
I know my fatehr fell into every TV preacher out there. My dad was kicked out of the walk. he knew too much.
Sorry my typos are not spirit lead. It is disability thing that I am famous for.