Paul, I have always respected your insights. In my mind, you are a prophet in the true sense. God speaks through you. I have always believed in a Universal Church -- no one denomination nor doctrine had the whole pie. Every joint supplies. From my background, I searched on my own long and hard for a minute-by-minute relationship with God. I started attending LW because at the time it was in line with my belief system. When it no longer was, I left. JRS spoke of living every promise in the Scriptures made by God that we could have. still am seeking fulfillment of those promises. It's MY walk with God, not a group's. I still seek confirmation, but not from designated relationships. God is good at confirming his Word to us. He did it with Moses, Noah, Samuel, etc. He can with me.
Paul Trowbridge Wrote:
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> I have a personal witness that similar revelation
> does come independently to various groups who have
> no connection to each other. I married a woman
> from the Ukraine that told me how when the Iron
> Curtain fell (and many of us prayed faithfully
> through the seventies and eighties that it would
> fall). That first eastern religion and occult
> teachings came to the Ukraine, but afterwards
> Bibles started coming in, then Evangilists. Her
> own experience was with a Church where several of
> them, including her, started getting specific
> revelation of the restoration of the New Testament
> Church. When I met her I was amazed at the nearly
> exact revelation her Ukraine church moved in as we
> did in the "Walk," years ago. God speaks to many
> people in the earth, it is what they do with that
> message we are sorting out.
>
> My experience in the "Walk," pointed to one thing:
> Men can know God, and know His voice, yet it
> takes eternal seeking of His face, God does not
> reveal Himself to the spiritually indolent
> (Laodicia). Some of the testimony here makes me
> think we are missing the point. Are we suprised
> men are weak? Are we suprised the flesh can still
> win the battles, in anyone, no matter their
> spiritual achievments? The central message of
> John Stevens was always "That I may follow on to
> know the Lord." It is good that the Walk
> disentigrated, because most of us, me included,
> were just in a movement, we were not seeking God
> with the desperation many of us had when we first
> came to God. Few happy and satisfied people fall
> into salvation. It is the lame the halt and the
> blind, but what is more is you know you still are.
> I am not too concerned about what Gary and
> Marilyn are doing or have done...What have I done?
> I feel like I have barely even scratched the
> surface in knowing what I should know.
>
> Think of the restoration leaders in the past, men
> that were burned at the stake, hunted and
> persecuted to death, the truth is hard-won, very
> hard won.
Paul Trowbridge Wrote:
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> I have a personal witness that similar revelation
> does come independently to various groups who have
> no connection to each other. I married a woman
> from the Ukraine that told me how when the Iron
> Curtain fell (and many of us prayed faithfully
> through the seventies and eighties that it would
> fall). That first eastern religion and occult
> teachings came to the Ukraine, but afterwards
> Bibles started coming in, then Evangilists. Her
> own experience was with a Church where several of
> them, including her, started getting specific
> revelation of the restoration of the New Testament
> Church. When I met her I was amazed at the nearly
> exact revelation her Ukraine church moved in as we
> did in the "Walk," years ago. God speaks to many
> people in the earth, it is what they do with that
> message we are sorting out.
>
> My experience in the "Walk," pointed to one thing:
> Men can know God, and know His voice, yet it
> takes eternal seeking of His face, God does not
> reveal Himself to the spiritually indolent
> (Laodicia). Some of the testimony here makes me
> think we are missing the point. Are we suprised
> men are weak? Are we suprised the flesh can still
> win the battles, in anyone, no matter their
> spiritual achievments? The central message of
> John Stevens was always "That I may follow on to
> know the Lord." It is good that the Walk
> disentigrated, because most of us, me included,
> were just in a movement, we were not seeking God
> with the desperation many of us had when we first
> came to God. Few happy and satisfied people fall
> into salvation. It is the lame the halt and the
> blind, but what is more is you know you still are.
> I am not too concerned about what Gary and
> Marilyn are doing or have done...What have I done?
> I feel like I have barely even scratched the
> surface in knowing what I should know.
>
> Think of the restoration leaders in the past, men
> that were burned at the stake, hunted and
> persecuted to death, the truth is hard-won, very
> hard won.