Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
FCSLC, When I heard you say that the rest scattered, I thought to myself, well good for them, I was happy for them, because they were free.I actually had the first impression from what you said, of...
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It must be nice to have it both ways: label the local churches independent entities, but then control them by placing those who, without question, will do your bidding. Any idea what the...
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Lily. I believe that David Cokas's church is located in Spring Valley, CA and is called Living Springs Church. They have some of David's messages on-line, if you want to hear them.
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changedagain Wrote:> helping maintain these churches>clarification: two churches I was a congregant in, and then aiding other crews, during my 'free time' (if such a thing existed) at the Church...
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This is hard for me, I do check im and read from time to time! It is nice to know that I am not alone in what I went thru after leaving the walk! (The walk left me) Does anyone go to church now? I...
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There isn’t much you can say to people to make them snap out of it when they believe that the overseer or overseers of their church is deity or have a special relationship with deity that entitles...
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To add to my last post. I do not wish anything bad on Gary and Marilyn. I hope they will repent and be saved. I do wish them long life and salvation, but that is their choice. It is not automatic...
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changedagain: I do not know the amount but I’m certain is was sizeable. It still “chaps my hide” when remembering all the sacrifice the locals made just to have a church for their children to attend...
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It's hard to say how any one of us would react if we had the leverage over G & M's life that they had over ours. I would hope my approach would simply be to treat them as no better/no worse than...
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Changedagain, I am wonder what sort of home do the Hargaves live in, how does it compare to the average homes of the congregation? How about John Stevens, what srot of property did he have? I know...
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I can relate, FCSLC. And I think you're right that the wiser choice between what TLWF became and the Mormon church could very well have been the latter. I can't imagine it being less...
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AD--What they have, and how much of it came off the backs of the little people, I don't know. I try, as best as I can, to only relate my experience...and if it mirrors others, than there's obviously a...
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If I'm asked to do something that personally benefits them, it always comes through an intermediary. Someone over me in the authority structure. So I can't, for certain, say that it originated as an...
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Let's not forget that Gary Hargrave was never a "little person". He came into the San Diego church while in college and was very quickly included into the eldership. After 6 months, he was an...
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paleface Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Let's not forget that Gary Hargrave was never a> "little person". He came into the San Diego church> while in college...
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I think the reason Hargrave advanced so quickly is simple to understand. With John Robert Stevens all it took was kissing up to him, with people that are stuck on themselves, if someone comes along...
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About my last post, that might not be entirely true, what I said about Stevens putting Hargrave in charge because he kissed up. It could be that Hargrave was the best to put in charge. There was...
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If I had been head honcho (hey, it could happen) on day one, I would have created a Walk without leaders, changed the title of all pastors, elders, etc. to Service Providers and changed the title of...
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Apostle Dog Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> if I had been set up as the honcho of the Living> Word Fellowship in John Steven's place, I would> have run it in...
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lily rose Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> If I had been head honcho (hey, it could happen)> on day one, I would have created a Walk without> leaders, changed...
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