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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 26, 2016, 7:04 am
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> Actually, she wouldn't have needed a will, I don't
> think. She had a living trust, The Hargrave
> Family Trust. All bank accounts, property titles,
> stocks and bonds, everything would be put in the
> name of the trust.

Didn't Marilyn have a trust fund just in her name? Someone mentioned a while back that the proceeds of the sale of the South Gate church went specifically to her. Is that correct...or simply an example of anti-lamp propaganda?
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 26, 2016, 9:21 am
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I am the one that posted that I had read on one of the forums, and it could not have been but this one or the FactNet one that the money from the sale of that church went into Marilyn's trust fund. However, do understand that I read that, that makes it here say so it would not stand up in court. That is the reason I asked more questions about it, but nobody knows. Supposedly Gary Hargrave told some pastor that, when the church was sold.

As someone else pointed out, as slick as Marilyn and Gary are, they would probably be too good as shuffling funds to make it appear legal anyway.
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 26, 2016, 9:43 am
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I'm no lawyer, but I think it is possible to have both a will and a trust. Also, you don't have to put everything in a trust. So for example, Marilyn could have had jewelry she held back from the trust and could have designated that it would go to a person upon her death. I think this is done all the time.
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 27, 2016, 7:06 am
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paleface Wrote:
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> I'm no lawyer, but I think it is possible to have
> both a will and a trust. Also, you don't have to
> put everything in a trust. So for example,
> Marilyn could have had jewelry she held back from
> the trust and could have designated that it would
> go to a person upon her death. I think this is
> done all the time.

My Dad gave his jewelry to my brother. Not sure how this really adds to the conversation.
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 27, 2016, 9:47 am
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I think it is OK for someone, even someone married to decide who to get their property, it does not necessarily go to the mate. I know that in the case of my first marriage my wife gave some property to our son. Of course, in that case I did not protest it in any way, but I still think it is OK to do that.

In the case of a church, I believe that in most States anyway, the sale of church property should go to the denomination (and Living Word was a denomination by all understanding) or a church sale should go to other churches or charities, not to any leader or to anybody in the congregation.
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 27, 2016, 10:12 am
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 27, 2016, 3:57 pm
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Just one more example of someone who has seen the LIGHT:

"Maybe I’m Actually Not a Christian After All"

[johnpavlovitz.com]
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 28, 2016, 5:28 pm
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 28, 2016, 5:51 pm
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I think the Living Word pretty much was a lost cause to begin with. Now it is just a typical charismatic church. There was some sort of vision to it in the beginning, as misguided as that might have been. But now, there isn't much to it. I have read some of their comments on their facebook page. All you hear out of them is they are going to "bring forth the Kingdom" or some crap. Like how are they going to pull that off? I'm moving on.
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 29, 2016, 6:40 am
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I didn't really expect Hargrave to take a step back. His whole walk history suggests that when faced with challenges, he steps up the intensity. The ultimate example, I think, is following John's death...when he decided at first to have the fellowship bombard with prayers demanding God bring him back, and then declared that his death defeated Satan, an amazing historical victory. I don't anyone will be able to out macho him. Maybe Trump if he was in the fellowship--not sure.
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 29, 2016, 7:11 am
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Speaking of bold moves:

On March 26, 1982, while John was still alive, “Hargrave Family Ministries” filed Articles of Incorporation in the State of California, while Gary was still married to Donna.

What great foresight . . .
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 30, 2016, 5:30 am
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> On March 26, 1982, while John was still alive,
> “Hargrave Family Ministries” filed Articles of
> Incorporation in the State of California, while
> Gary was still married to Donna.

What was the purpose of that?? Just another bold, strange move by a 'man of God'that no one dare question...lest they get demeaning personal ministry in front of the congregation and/or punched in the face. I mean, they obviously deserve it because somewhere in scripture this approach is justified, but still.
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 30, 2016, 5:37 am
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Scriptural justifications are how TLW rolls--LOVE be damned.
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 31, 2016, 8:29 am
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The Living Word Fellowship Blog dated January 17, 2016 says there’s a third anointing that will bring revival and fulfillment.

Okay. In the meantime, keep paying your tithes, submit and give adulation to the hierarchy.

Same old, same old since 1969 when I first went to the church in Salt Lake City.
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 31, 2016, 8:31 am
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it, or, if the flavor still finds favor, don't mess with the Kool-Aid.
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 31, 2016, 11:28 am
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"The Living Word Fellowship Blog dated January 17, 2016 says there’s a third anointing that will bring revival and fulfillment."

Finally!
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

January 31, 2016, 8:31 pm
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Just caught up with everyone again. What a prolific thread - Golden I'm tempted to say. thanks for your honesty and sincerity.
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

February 1, 2016, 12:06 am
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I would not be surprised if this "third anointing" they are talking about might consist of hooking up with other Latter Rain, third wave people. I don't think it would hurt them in the least, in fact, pretty much anything that would unite the Walk with anybody outside their doors would probably be good for them, in comparison to what they much come up with on their own. I think the biggest reasons for most of their problems in the past has been the fact that they have isolated themselves from everybody else from the beginning. Any time somebody becomes a law unto themselves it is trouble.
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

February 1, 2016, 6:07 am
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I wonder if the fourth anointing is the selling off of all church assets to the enrichment of a few.
I guess I'm getting ahead of myself--sorry. Staying focused on the now has always been a challenge to me.
Kingdom Now!
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens

February 1, 2016, 7:50 am
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Best guess is that TLW will be a functioning entity until the second generation dies off. (Hargrave, et al). The third will probably lose interest and sell off assets then. My two cents.
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